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Au Conseil Régional de la Région de Halland

Les signataires (les soussignés) - musiciens d'église, organistes de concert, professeurs d'orgue, facteurs d'orgues, experts d'orgue ou des personnes ayant un rapport avec l'art organistique sous d'autres aspects - en appellent au conseil Régional de la Région de Halland d'ignorer la demande de Monsieur Folkesson, conservateur en chef régional, à l'égard de la reconstruction de la façade de l'ancien orgue!

La transformation stipulée de l'orgue est complètement irréaliste et nécessiterait des interventions décisives (radicales) en vue du nouvel instrument, de l'espace intérieur de l'église et des activités musicales de l'église; en outre, elle causerait des dépenses irresponsables s'élevant à 4 millions de couronnes suédoises (environ 450 000 euros).

Le buffet "Tengbom"

n'a rien en commun avec le nouvel orgue, ni sur les plans visuel, sonore et acoustique ni sur le plan stylistique;
a des tuyaux muets dont les étalons se distinguent complètement des tuyaux sonores du buffet du nouvel orgue, et qui devraient être insérés dans le vieux buffet;
est un produit de son époque et un exemple d'un style décadent qui était possible durant les premières années de la guerre (vers 1940), pourtant inacceptable depuis ce temps-là; dans ce sens, le buffet est (espérons-le!) unique, toutefois exclusivement dans un sens negatif.
n'a pas de traits stylistiques communs ni par rapport à l'espace intérieur de l'église ni par rapport à une tradition de facture d'orgue quelconque, antérieure ou postérieure; l'affirmation que ce buffet serait une partie indispensable de "l'ensemble" architectural de l'église est un argument a posteriori (ultérieur), qui démontre sa propre absurdité.

Den gamla orgeln / The previous organ / Die alte Orgel / L’orgue ancien La reconstruction du vieux buffet signifie une intervention plus vaste dans l'orgue que ses préconiseurs ne semblent la concevoir.
Des parties fonctionellement importantes devraient être transformées, ce qui aurait un effet désavantageux sur l'instrument.
Le dégât pour l'orgue serait irreversible et inacceptable.

Le buffet du nouvel orgue est une partie intégrée de la fonction de l'instrument, ainsi, on ne peut pas tout simplement le remplacer.
Par contre, le vieux buffet est une "façade" au sens propre du mot et qui a été placé(e) devant l'orgue sans aucune fonction intrinsèque.

Tenant compte des explications ci-dessus, nous en appelons au Conseil Régional de la Région de Halland d'ignorer la demande de son Conservateur en chef, M. Folkesson, concernant la reconstruction du vieux buffet et de laisser le nouvel orgue intact.

Skriv under / Please sign / Bitte unterschreiben / Signez s.v.p.

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Neil Shepherd

Director of Music, Standish Parish Church, Lancashire, UK

Higher Greenbank Barn, Whalley Road, Sabden

Reply #601 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 10:35:26

I have played this instrument on a couple of occasions and to remove the delightful case would be an example of ecclesiastical vandalism at its best.

Gjermund Mildestveit

Organist

Øvre Titlestad 46, 5243 Fana

Reply #602 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 10:48:40

martin owen

organist

93 centurion building, london sw8 4nz

Reply #603 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 11:04:00

There is clearly a miusunderstanding about the function and purpose of an organ case as opposed to just a facade or screen of pipes.

RIchard Scott-Copeland

Mr

53 Barry Road Bitterne Southampton

Reply #604 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 11:23:44

Paul Walton

Assistant Organist

Bristol Cathedral, College Green, Bristol, BS1 5TJ

Reply #605 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 11:36:10

Benoît Mernier

Organiste à l'église du Sablon-Bruxelles - Professeur d'orgue IMEP (Namur)

22, rue de la Brasserie B-1050 Bruxelles

Reply #606 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 12:41:42

Colin Harvey

Organist, St Mary the Virgin, Twyford

20 Braxton House, Winchester, SO23 0LX

Reply #607 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 15:03:18

The old organ case would be completely at odds with the new organ. I wish the petition the best of luck to retain the new organ as it is. It looks beautiful in its setting!

Jenny Setchell

organ website designer

Christchurch, New Zealand

Reply #608 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 19:50:57

I don't see how anyone could even think of replacing the magnificent façade of the new organ - let alone why!

Dr Jim Berrow

Honorary Research Fellow, University of Birmingham

17 Wheeleys Road, Edgbaston, Birmingham B15 2LD, UK

Reply #609 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 21:51:50

I can only hope that common sense prevails.

Leif Danielsson

Körsångare, kyrkobesökare

Tångrevsvägen 3E, Halmstad

Reply #610 on : Wed October 10, 2007, 22:00:45

Dave Harries

Organ enthusiast

9 Sunnyside, Stoke Bishop, Bristol, BS9 1BQ, UK

Reply #611 on : Thu October 11, 2007, 02:35:56

Preserve the beauty of your church: keep the current organ case!

Steven Thomas

former organ builder

3103 Grandview Way, Westfield, IN 46074 USA

Reply #612 on : Thu October 11, 2007, 03:41:35

The new organ is beautiful; the old one does not represent any substantially rational period of organbuilding. As my former employer Lawrence Phelps once said, "However, it is important that organ lovers avoid becoming antiquarians, interested chiefly in venerating the monuments of a past age, however fine, rather than in encouraging and sustaining a living tradition. What really matters is the music itself, and when it is necessary to compromise its effectiveness in purely musical terms in order to accommodate to the mechanical characteristics of an old organ, it becomes necessary to re-examine our priorities."

Iver Livendahl

Organist

Plommonvägen 18 223 55 Lund

Reply #613 on : Thu October 11, 2007, 13:38:36

Det får vara nog med RÄ:s inställning att bevara inventarier in absurdum enligt gubbstruntsprincipen "Ju förr dessto bättre". Man måste ibland se mer till ändamålet. Kyrkan kan inte bara vara ett museum!

Iver L.

Magnus Kilvén

Organist

Stavgränd 3 Björklinge

Reply #614 on : Thu October 11, 2007, 19:57:57

Om nu detta är ett prestigefall, kan man ju undra vad RA hoppas kunna vinna på det, man ökar ju inte sin trovärdighet med ett sådant här idiotiskt genomförande. Jag trodde att orgel och fasad som bildar en konstnärlig helhet tillsammans var något eftersträvansvärt.

Virpi Pahkinen

koreograf

commedia ab, box 22211, 10422 Stockholm

Reply #615 on : Thu October 11, 2007, 21:36:47

Roy Stephenson

Organ Builder.

39 Gilman Road, Buxton,Maine 04093, USA

Reply #616 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 02:33:29

And I thought I had seen and heard it all! I have met so called preservers of antiqueries insisting that the organ key action wires of a 150 year old instrument must not be replaced even though they were completely rusted away thereby making a wonderful instrument unplayable. Now we have a yet more perverse idea: let's put the new organ in an old and ugly case even though it has a quite splendid case already. Next time the person who suggested this buys a new car I think we should all insist that his old car body be used to enclose the new one......Now that does sound absurd doesn't it?!!

Göran Dahlberg

Musikälskare

Klackens Tvärgränd 45, 302 61 HALMSTAD

Reply #617 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 06:46:05

Hejsan

Det verkar som om vår "käre" länsarkivarie glider lite på sanningen, eftersom han inte vill ge mej (oss) hela bilden. Men den har jag ju fått nu. Det enda man faktiskt bör göra att att skicka in det #Tengbomska" ackustiska missfostret på ett museum.Men jag tycker faktiskt att ert upprop med ändrat huvud skall publiceras i Hallandsposten, efter som detta berör staden Halmstad och dess anseende

M V H
Göran Dahlberg

Charlotta Holmgren

organist

Hyllie kyrka Malmö

Reply #618 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 10:50:13

koos theuws

lawyer/judge

eikenlaan 23, 5263gm Vught

Reply #619 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 14:52:13

Jerker Sjöqvist

Kantor, ledamot i Sv Orgelsällskapets styrelse

Rättarev 8, 442 50 Ytterby

Reply #620 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 17:16:25

J.Hendriksma-Nijland

o.s.v.

eikenheuveldreef 5 5263 em Vught

Reply #621 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 17:43:41

Timothy-James GUNTRIP

Organist

27 Triq il-Madonna, Zebbug, MALTA

Reply #622 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 17:45:51

I heartily endorse the comments made above - aesthetical vandalism of the highest order.

Lars Olsson

kantor, leg.läk. pensionär

Backegårdssgatan 27A 41506 Göteborg

Reply #623 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 19:03:00

Har spelat på orgeln vid flera tillfällen, även vid små konserter i trängre krets, och uppskattar den mycket. Att hänga upp tengbomfasadem påminner mej om min barndoms "skrubbansikten" när pappa var tomte och hans röst lät så ihålig bakom masken. Dess ujtseende svär helt mot den levande klangen. LO

Martin Lindman

organist

N. Köpmangatan 22B

Reply #624 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 19:47:59

A.H. van der Veen

Surgeon

Loonsebaan 141, Vught, The Netherlands

Reply #625 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 21:21:53

Truly unbelievable mistake to replace this beuatiful piece of art

Michael Rosén

lärare i kulturhistoria, orgelentusiast

Glasshult Åsen 301

Reply #626 on : Fri October 12, 2007, 22:03:00

Tengbomfasaden = kitsch!

H. Mars

Advocate/musiclover

Oetelaarsestraat 14 Gemonde

Reply #627 on : Sat October 13, 2007, 09:42:15

A churchorgan is first of all a functional instrument and secondly a showpiece. The exterior should therefor be subordinate to the musical qualities.

CLOSE Gérard

Organiste Abbaye bénédictine Clervaux-Lux.

36 Fin de VILLE b;-6660_houffalize

Reply #628 on : Sat October 13, 2007, 17:54:34

Christer Sundstrand

Organist, Musikdirektör

Spiréav. 12 A, 312 35 LAHOLM

Reply #629 on : Sun October 14, 2007, 18:06:35

Låt inte prestigetänkande på låg nivå få förstöra
ett fantastiskt och helgjutet instrument och ett
underbart kyrkorum!

Daniel Trocme Latter

Organ Scholar

Wanganui Collegiate School, Wanganui 4540, NZ

Reply #630 on : Sun October 14, 2007, 23:17:56

Roy Tankersley

Director of Music St Andrews in the City, Palmerston North.

51 Roy Street Palmerston North, New Zealand

Reply #631 on : Sun October 14, 2007, 23:47:16

Monika Kristiansson

kantor

Norreg. 18 a Malmö

Reply #632 on : Tue October 16, 2007, 16:15:50

Kristina Hellgren

Organist

Box 174 232 22 Arlöv

Reply #633 on : Tue October 16, 2007, 16:19:29

Chris Howard

D o M Holy Trinity Coventry

Elmesthorpe leics

Reply #634 on : Tue October 16, 2007, 23:44:16

Integrity must be paramount.

Christoph Lahme

Kantor und Sänger

Schloßstr. 299, 45359 Essen

Reply #635 on : Wed October 17, 2007, 09:48:07

Linda Andersson

Organist i Växjö domkyrka

Nyg.6 35105 Växjö

Reply #636 on : Wed October 17, 2007, 11:00:32

Jag instämmer helt med ovanstående text, och tycker det "går för långt" när man till varje pris måste återställa något som det en gång var, även om resultat blir sämre!Varför?
Lyssna till dom som verkligen använder orgeln och skall spela på den varje dag!

Robert Pauker

Organist

Seger Svanbergsgatan 4, 981 31 Kiruna

Reply #637 on : Wed October 17, 2007, 12:34:46

Dr. Dorothea Schröder

music historian

Segelckestr. 67, D-27472 Cuxhaven/Germany

Reply #638 on : Wed October 17, 2007, 16:57:18

Considering to reconstruct the former organ design seems to me like utter folly! Yes, I know that there is a long tradition of caseless facades going back far beyond 1940, especially in England, but even then, there are good designs and less successful ones. In older church buildings, ornated with carefully made works of art, they usually look like strange (and often shabby) intruders, more or less depending on their size.
In the case of Halmstad's 1940 organ front, I should not feel attracted to attend any liturgical or concert performance because it cries out, "I am loud and aggressive!" The shield-like front, flanked by towers of disproportioned pedal pipes, exudes a brutal pathos (in Germany it would be clearly labelled "fashistoid") - insofar, the facade is a perfect witness of its time of construction - but, regarding the year 1940, does that mean one has to keep it at (literally) all costs and make so many people feel uneasy about the appearance of their church?
Even if that stylistic reminiscence of Europe's saddest period could be neglected, there would remain a clumsy exhibition of metal tubusses with its outward design overpowering the possible qualities of the pipework and the playing. In contrast, the new case shows elegant dignity in tune with the prevailing verticality of its surroundings, while the slender pipe-fields announce optically a classical tonal character with beautiful solo voices and a powerful yet not aggressive plenum.
If someone wishes to preserve the 1940 facade for the next centuries, he ought to re-erect it in a disused aircraft hangar or some other remote place and let it be looked at by those who delight in bad taste. But, please, spare the churchgoers and music lovers of Halmstad who took the reight decision when they had the new facade built!

Lennart Ericsson

Kyrkomusiker/Stiftsombud

Rasbo, Kräby, 755 96 Uppsala

Reply #639 on : Wed October 17, 2007, 23:37:55

Karl Wikenståhl

Organist

Grönstensvägen 9, 703 74 Örebro

Reply #640 on : Thu October 18, 2007, 13:49:21

Peter Hovestadt

organist in 3 churches

Achterweg 11, 4156AA RUMPT Holland

Reply #641 on : Thu October 18, 2007, 18:27:31

I agree with the protest

Steens B-J

organiste Titulaire de la Basilique Saint Remi de Reims

10, Place Saint Timothée 51100 Reims

Reply #642 on : Thu October 18, 2007, 23:28:36

Transformer l'orgue avec l'ancien buffet serait complètement absurde. L'orgue de 2003 à été conçu de manière cohérente. Il ne faut rien changer à cela!

Mårten Grosshög

Kantor, lärare i ekonomi och juridik.

Lyckåkersgatan 2, 302 37

Reply #643 on : Fri October 19, 2007, 10:45:13

Det är ju riktigt att prövningen i högre rättsinstanser endast gäller formalia - ej om beslutet är bra eller dåligt. Det vore förödande ur estetisk, kulturhistorisk och musikalisk synpunkt om Tengbomfasaden sattes upp igen. En möjlighet vore att i stället bevara den i ett museum.

Lars Djerf

kh em

Kommendörsgatan 28, III, 114 48 Sthlm

Reply #644 on : Sat October 20, 2007, 07:15:55

Barbro Hilwig-Sjostedt

Swedish/Dutch translator

Burcghtstraat 3, 5256EB Heusden-Holland

Reply #645 on : Sat October 20, 2007, 15:54:38

For years I have closely followed the sad story of the orgen-fight in Halmstad.
As a Swede I feel ashamed of the authorities in Sweden who are too afraid to take own decisions listening to reason and hart but chooses blindly to follow rules and regulations.

Anders Havgaard Rasmussen

orgelbygger

Krogen 23, 6740 Bramming, Danmark

Reply #646 on : Sun October 21, 2007, 19:42:33

Anders Pettersson

Organist Sv Gustafskyrkan, univ-adjunkt medie- och kommunikationsvetenskap

Folke Bernadottes Allé 4, Kbh Ø

Reply #647 on : Tue October 23, 2007, 00:04:36

Staffan Alveteg

Kantor

Svartågatan 22, Bagarmossen

Reply #648 on : Wed October 24, 2007, 09:16:20

Bertil Alving

Inspelningstekniker, fd organist och fd orgelbyggare

Edinsvägen 18, 13145 Nacka

Reply #649 on : Wed October 24, 2007, 12:24:42

Myndigheterna anser att en orgelfasad som var ett estetiskt och funktionellt obegåvat misstag skall bevaras till eftervärlden som en manifestation av en dekadent epok! Ofattbart! Det räcker med att den misslyckade orgelfasaden bevaras i form av bilddokumentation som avskräckande exempel för framtida generationer.

Gunnel Jungmar

Adjunkt(född i Halmstad)

Bondegatan15,Västervik

Reply #650 on : Wed October 24, 2007, 15:35:16

Sven A Wessman

Kyrkomusiker, musikförläggare

File 62446 SLITE

Reply #651 on : Wed October 24, 2007, 17:57:49

Alexander Fiseisky

Organist of the Moscow State Philharmonie, Head of the Organ Department of the Russian Gnessins' Academy of Music

Moscow, Uchebny per. 3-51, 119048 Russia

Reply #652 on : Wed October 24, 2007, 19:04:03

I suppose, this organ should be preserved in its current state. Alexander Fiseisky

Martin Sturfält

orgelvän

Erik Dahlbergsgatan 24 / 115 32 Stockholm

Reply #653 on : Thu October 25, 2007, 08:12:00

Arild Jägerskogh

ordf. föreningen Sakndiaorgeln

KTH CSC 100 44 Stockholm

Reply #654 on : Thu October 25, 2007, 11:36:20

Olle Långström

kyrkomusiker

Floravägen 19 A 737 42 Fagersta

Reply #655 on : Thu October 25, 2007, 12:13:34

Hoppas att för en gångs skull sunt instrumentförnuft får råda!

Eva-Karin Remback

Organist

Tennringen 23 176 74 Järfälla

Reply #656 on : Thu October 25, 2007, 17:48:08

Åke Svedén

Organist

rue des Navets 26/4 BE-1000 Bruxelles

Reply #657 on : Thu October 25, 2007, 21:39:32

Per-Gunnar Skoog

Organist

Eldtornsgränd 19 S-230 40 Bara

Reply #658 on : Fri October 26, 2007, 09:37:42

Jozef Sluys

Domorganist, Brüssel

Domstr. 8, B-1602 Vlezenbeek

Reply #659 on : Fri October 26, 2007, 10:27:14

Thomas Dahl

Hauptkirche St. Petri, Hamburg / Erster Kirchenmusiker

Edgar-Roß-Str. 9, D-20251 Hamburg

Reply #660 on : Sat October 27, 2007, 21:04:03

François Delhumeau

Facteur d'orgues

Babonneix F 23200 La Chaussade

Reply #661 on : Sun October 28, 2007, 17:53:24

Encore un effet scandaleux des experts , Les experts du Ministère de la Culture en 2003 avaient essayé tous les moyens pour torpiller le projet de la construction de l'orgue que j'ai construit à Pontaumur ( Auvergne ) d'après l'orgue Bach d'Arnstadt .

La bétise est partout , pourquoi , avoir laissé construire cet instrument pour le démolir après ? Quel gaspillage d'argent et d'énergie .

Phillip Gearing

Organist, Director of Music, St Luke's Anglican Church, Toowoomba, Australia

Toowoomba, Australia

Reply #662 on : Mon October 29, 2007, 06:55:52

The present case serves the tonal cohesion of the instrument and is also architecturally and aesthetically sensitive to the building in which it is housed. None of these positive attributes can be applied to the 1940s case. If that case is reinstated it would be an act of vandalism on architectural and aesthetic grounds, but perhaps most importantly for a musical instrument, would also adversely affect the tonal integrity and beauty of the instrument. Such an act must not proceed.

Sven-Ingvart Mikkelsen

Slotsorganist - Frederiksborg

Foderknægtsvej 9, DK-3400 Hillerød

Reply #663 on : Mon October 29, 2007, 10:11:21

Claudio Pinchi

Orgelbauer

Via B.Garibaldi, 13 06034 Foligno Italy

Reply #664 on : Tue October 30, 2007, 21:49:15

I will never stop to surprise myself of the human stupidity!
I wish you all the best against this crazy operation.

Dr. Carlo Centemeri

Organist, harpsichordist, conductor

Via Montepulciano, 5 - 20124 - Milano, Italy

Reply #665 on : Tue October 30, 2007, 22:08:22

Robert Buhagiar

organbuilder

76 Victory Street Zabbar, MALTA

Reply #666 on : Tue October 30, 2007, 22:09:36

I'm still convinced this might be a joke. Nevertheless I wish to sign this petition. I cannot believe that this kind of fundamentalism would exist in an advanced country such as Sweden. Hopefully this will turn out to be a joke and we'll all have a good laugh.

Jo Ellen Elsener

Organbuilder, President Elsener Organ Works, Inc

46 West 22 St. Deer Park NY 11729

Reply #667 on : Tue October 30, 2007, 22:26:17

Removal of the facade pipework is removing partial ranks of pipes to replace them with pipes constructed and scaled for an entirely different instrument. In essence to preserve the original case is to destroy the artistic tonal design of the new instrument and in my humble opinion the original facade is quite grotesque in comparison to the new facade.

Emanuele Cardi

Organist in Battipaglia

via Ionio 5 84091 Battipaglia - Italy

Reply #668 on : Tue October 30, 2007, 23:32:26

...no words...!

WALTHER MUHLEISEN

Orgelbauer, Meilleur ouvrier de France

34 rue Bastian, 67200 Strasbourg, FRANCE

Reply #669 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 07:45:11

S'il vous plait laissez le buffet de l'orgue Pels & van Leeuwen (2003) comme il est !
Pourquoi rêver d'un buffet qui a fait partie d'une autre histoire de l'orgue ? c'est un autre instrument! ce n'est pas cohérent !

BAUMANN Marc

organiste titulaire Cathédrale de Strasbourg FRANCE

5 rue des Châtaigniers 67360 Goersdorf FRANCE

Reply #670 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 08:20:58

Alessandro Alfieri

Organbuilder

Via Tavallini, 90 - 13012 Borgo Vercelli (VC) - Italy

Reply #671 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 08:34:24

!!!

COGEZ Bernard

FACTEUR D'ORGUES

73, rue de Gand 59200 TOURCOING - FRANCE

Reply #672 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 08:43:59

Christoph Metzler

Orgelbauer

Hofackerstr. 1, CH-8953 Dietikon, Switzerland

Reply #673 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 09:18:14

Unglaublich, so ein Vorschlag im Jahre 2007...

Pascal REBER

Titular Urganist from the Cathedral of Strasbourg

11,Rue de la Synagogue 68100 Mulhouse

Reply #674 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 09:20:26

Le nouveau buffet est esthétique ment laid.
Respectons le buffet d'origine qui cadre mieux avec l'édifice

guillier anne

organiste et professeur d'orgue

36 rue du montrouge - FR-67110 Niederbronn-les-Bains

Reply #675 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 10:23:10

Matthieu Garnier

Organ Builder

sengoku 2-9-2 Bunkyo-ku #112-0011 Tokyo Japan

Reply #676 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 13:32:05

It is a joke,...., I hope that you will have the power to change that decision.

John F. Nordlie

Organ Builder

504 S. Charlotte Ave., Sioux Falls, SD 57103 USA

Reply #677 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 15:13:01

Patrice VOGEL

Piano and Organ teacher in Alsace (France)

17 rue de la gare - 67370 TRUCHTERSHEIM - FRANCE

Reply #678 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 16:42:38

Die aktuelle Orgel hat ein sehr schönes Ansehen.
Die vorherige war ein Monstrum !

Patrice VOGEL (France)

HASSLER Thierry

Organist

28 rue du Charme 67130 RUSS

Reply #679 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 18:04:58

Dear Sirs,

I don't understand why you want to rebuilt a new organ in the place who stand already one wich seems to be very nice and important. Progress does not always rime with beautifuls organs ...

Andreas Seul

Orgelbauer

Fronhofstr. 9 D-35440 Linden

Reply #680 on : Wed October 31, 2007, 19:16:54

Pallaud Cyril

Organiste, conservateur des orgues historiques d'Oberhergheim, directeur du festival international d'orgue Callinet

7 rue de l'avenir 68360 Soultz

Reply #681 on : Thu November 01, 2007, 16:36:51

Bertil Östergren

pensionär

Villarydsvägen 8

Reply #682 on : Fri November 02, 2007, 16:06:27

Jag har under alla mina studier av orgelbyggarhistorien aldrig hört något så dumt. Sätta upp orgelskräp för 4 miljoner framför en konstnärligt och ljudmässigt riktig orgelfasad! Vart är myndighets-Sverige på väg?

Mattias Wennberg

Blivande organist och kantor i Stora Skedvi

jungfruvägen 33b 791 34 falun

Reply #683 on : Fri November 02, 2007, 17:28:29

Antikvariet missbrukar sin roll, har det gått så långt att man för femtio år sedan kunde slänga ut instrument med flera hundra år på nacken till förmån för ett orgelbyggeriets "miljonprogramm" men att man idag inte kan åtgärda den skadan? Tummen ner för Riksantikvarieämbetet och dess orgelsakkunnige.

Mr Paul Christopher Ritchie

Organist Emeritus, St George's Church, Cullercoats.

5 Windermere Drive. Killingworth. Newcastle upon Tyne. NE12 6TW. UK.

Reply #684 on : Fri November 02, 2007, 21:51:54

As a former organ builder I find it incomprehensible that the beautiful organ case currenlty standing on the west gallery should be removed to make way for such an ugly facade. This is beurocracy gone mad!

Paul Ritchie.

Soucaille Bruno

organiste, claveciniste, directeur de l'Ecole de Musique de Sélestat

4 rue du Cimetière 67600 SELESTAT France

Reply #685 on : Fri November 02, 2007, 22:23:25

Crawford Wiley

Organist

P.O. 40548 c/o BJU 1700 Wade Hampton Blvd. Greenville, SC 29614

Reply #686 on : Sat November 03, 2007, 01:31:14

It seems extraordinarily absurd to me that such wanton destruction could be seriously considered.
It is not as though the present organ case is a mere stage-prop facade which could be removed without detriment to the mechanism that it is an essential part of. Besides which, there is that other fairly obvious fact, which does not seem to have been considered: it seems most unlikely that the present organ (which is an entirely different instrument than the former) will fit comfortably behind the old case. The two are, to all appearances, simply incompatible. All of this seems vaguely unreal to me. I hope the precious instrument is not touched.

Derek Byrne

Master Organ Builder

st pauls , church , church terrace, bray ireland

Reply #687 on : Sat November 03, 2007, 11:21:46

Clearly a great misunderstnding on behalf of the local authorities.

Martin Blindow

KMD Pof.Dr.

Heitbusch 5 D-48163 Muenster

Reply #688 on : Sat November 03, 2007, 12:43:51

Francesco di Lernia

organist

Italy

Reply #689 on : Sat November 03, 2007, 18:11:32

Alan Gagnon

Organist

Hooksett, NH 03106 USA

Reply #690 on : Sun November 04, 2007, 02:49:43

This is a verging on a travesty! To destroy a historical instrument both musically and artistically is unacceptable. Ask any reasonable person, whether they are an organist or not, and I am sure they will agree that the 1940s case is thoroughly ugly. It is a shame that such a thing might happen. I certainly hope that this plan is not carried out and that the organ is left as it is now for all to see and hear.

Hans-Ulrich Erbslöh

Orgelbauer

Gudrunstrasse 23, 22559 Hamburg Germany

Reply #691 on : Mon November 05, 2007, 13:10:59

Gäbe es eine besondere Auszeichnung für besonderen Schwachsinn, diese Idee hätte sie bestimmt verdient.

Tomaz Mocnik

Organbuilder

Ivana Hribarja 31, SI 4207 Cerklje, Slovenia

Reply #692 on : Mon November 05, 2007, 16:54:50

Lois Regestein

Organist

6 Worthington Street,, Boston, MA 02120 USA

Reply #693 on : Mon November 05, 2007, 19:22:53

The case design of this instrument relates to the organ inside the case. To negate this relationship makes no sense, and in fact sounds very much like a misguided effort to "restore" something when the proposed change would in fact destroy an integral aspect of the organ.

simon lawford

organist

perth, w australia

Reply #694 on : Wed November 07, 2007, 10:36:42

Amen to all the comments above...and...
"You cannot be serious!!" (John McEnroe)

Matthew Atherton

Organist

S. Francis Xavier's Cathedral, Adelaide, South Australia

Reply #695 on : Mon November 19, 2007, 06:03:53

A ludicrous and illogical proposal. The new facade looks as though it was made to complement the existing architecture. Good luck.

Patrik Sassersson

organist, musikkonsulent

Växjö

Reply #696 on : Wed November 21, 2007, 16:50:01

Cecilia Nordquist

kantor

Växjö

Reply #697 on : Thu November 22, 2007, 18:06:39

Michel Buet

Organist

Le village F69420 Les Haies

Reply #698 on : Wed November 28, 2007, 18:50:55

I thought crazy experts was only in France ...

David Rothe

University Organist, Music Professor

California State University, Chico 95929-0805

Reply #699 on : Thu November 29, 2007, 00:30:57

The new case is aesthetically pleasing and fits the church architecture very well.

The old case is ugly and detracts from the church architecture and ambience.

Paolo Oreni

International Concert Organist

Via Carlo Carcano, 11 I-24047 Treviglio www.oreni.org

Reply #700 on : Mon December 03, 2007, 17:47:11

Lee Dettra

Retired organist and choirmaster, Cadet Chapel, U. S. Military Academy, West Point, N.Y.

157 Cornwell Dr., Bear, DE 19701-3127 USA

Reply #701 on : Tue December 04, 2007, 03:55:45

Johannez Harg

Orgelstuderande

Tantogatan 27 118 42 Stockholm

Reply #702 on : Wed December 05, 2007, 18:34:20

Vi måste bekämpa den totalt okunniga byråkratin genom att bevara den nya orgeln!

Johannes Leyman

Musikproducent

Leyman Music; Box 40; 511 21 Kinna

Reply #703 on : Mon December 17, 2007, 02:21:47

Last Edit: December 17, 2007, 05:51:04 by admin

Schoonbroodt Serge

Organist & Director del "Festival International de Musica Arequipa" (Peru)

avenue des Prisonniers 3 - 4608 Warsage - Belgien

Reply #704 on : Wed January 02, 2008, 09:22:26

Was soll dieser Unsinn! Die neue Orgel scheint ja so schön zu sein ... Warum sollte man immer nach hinten schauen ? :-)

Patrice Duport

Sacristain

Aix en Provence - France

Reply #705 on : Tue January 08, 2008, 23:18:54

Sam MOUROT

Musician and old instruments lover

Osse - France

Reply #706 on : Fri February 08, 2008, 13:50:35

Best regards from France, hope this will help !

HARTHONG Jeab-François

Prêtre et organiste

Durrenbach

Reply #707 on : Tue February 19, 2008, 14:04:37

Une fois n'est pas coutume... on marche sur la tête ! (à vérifier : qui a intérêt à ce massacre ?)

Steen Wrensted Jensen

Organist ved Tønder Kristkirke

Kongevej 63, 6100 Haderslev, Danmark

Reply #708 on : Fri February 29, 2008, 13:26:26

Hvorfor ødelægge noget smukt og godt?

Schloemann, Martin

Prof. em., f.d. präst i Stockholm, St:a Gertrud

Kemnader Str. 340, 44797 Bochum, Tyskland

Reply #709 on : Mon March 03, 2008, 12:51:38

Jan Quintus Zwart

Audio Producer

Kampen The Netherlands

Reply #710 on : Tue March 11, 2008, 15:49:31

Wat een onzin om de oude situatie te willen herstellen.
Het nieuwe orgel ziet er fantastisch uit, het oude is een verschrikkelijk product van een bedenkelijke kwaliteit.
The new façade looks beautiful !
The previous one looks terrible!

Gary Vander Ploeg

Organist - Long's Run Presbyterian Church

East Liverpool, OH USA

Reply #711 on : Thu March 27, 2008, 18:58:50

Clearly many experts above have articulated the reasons, and the new casework MUST stay. As another suggested, re-erect the old facade in an abandoned hangar for those who revell in bad taste.

Richard McGovern

Organist i Sala.

Västgötagatan 10 Västerås 72211

Reply #712 on : Wed April 02, 2008, 15:45:10

Leave the organ be!!Its just fine as it is!

Markus Rupprecht

Kirchenmusiker, Organist

Wysuntweg 3, D-93109

Reply #713 on : Fri April 25, 2008, 12:11:47

Per Arne Lövold

Kantor

Voksen kirke, Oslo

Reply #714 on : Fri April 25, 2008, 14:18:30

Freddy Samsing

Domorganist

Fangel Bygade 34, Odense S

Reply #715 on : Mon May 05, 2008, 23:13:09

Jan-Olov Berglund

Kyrkomusiker, Ovansjö kyrka

Allévägen 34, 811 36 Sandviken

Reply #716 on : Tue May 06, 2008, 10:16:21

Paavo Wirpi

Orgelbyggare

Hyvinge, Finland

Reply #717 on : Thu May 15, 2008, 00:23:39

Planeringen är helt otrolig. Den gamla orgeln ser ut som ett stort spök, men den nutida är traditionell och skön.

Anna-Karin Jonsson

Körsångare i Nicolaikören, Oratoriekören

Pumpvägen 13 Halmstad

Reply #718 on : Mon May 26, 2008, 13:24:49

Birgitta Ehrenström

Körsångare

Eleonoragatan 7 c

Reply #719 on : Tue May 27, 2008, 20:35:23

Hans Helander

lyssnare

Nålmakaregatan 6 D, 302 37 Halmstad

Reply #720 on : Thu May 29, 2008, 12:04:41

Det är fullständigt obegripligt att formalia får huvudrollen i ett konstnärligt ärende. Ingen av fasaderna får mig att jubla, däremot det nya instrumentet. Släpp prestigen och lyssna till förnuftet - och musiken!
Tengboms klassicerande kuliss är ju en lika främmande fågel i kyrkorummet som den nya i kitschig barock. Tyvärr har kyrkan och de kulturvårdande myndigheterna inte haft fantasin eller modet att låta den nya orgeln berika S:t Nikolai med en originell fasad, fri från konsthistoriska bindningar. Nu är det bara att blunda alt. vända ryggen till och njuta av Bach, Händel och andra gudar höjda över tid och smak.

Stefan Ericsson

Medlem i kyrkan

Nålmakaregatan 6A

Reply #721 on : Wed June 04, 2008, 18:50:04

Vad jag vet så har ingen frågat oss som bor här och är medlemmar av Nikolai kyrka vad vi tycker om det hela.

Låt oss slippa det gamla fula eländet!

Daniel Wikrén

Fil.kand

Österängsgatan 38, 302 53 Halmstad

Reply #722 on : Tue July 29, 2008, 23:59:57

James Lally

Organist og kantor Ebeltoft kirke

Hyrdedalen 3. 8400 Ebeltoft. Danmark

Reply #723 on : Fri August 01, 2008, 12:21:08

You have a beautiful new organ. The facade is an important part of this new instrument. It tells a story of what the listener can expect of the instrument. The picture clearly shows an organ case that has been lovingly designed by the builder to visually reflect the instrument within.

The old case is lacking any redeeming features, it is one of the ugliest I have seen in my 46 year long career as an organist. To reinstall that case would be an act of unmentionable vandalism and I strongly urge you to drop any idea of placing this monster in front of your wonderful new organ. If it is such an important facade, place it in a museum where it can do no harm!

Kevin Duggan

Organist

Sct. Nicolai Kirke, Rønne, Bornholm

Reply #724 on : Fri August 01, 2008, 13:16:57

It seems hard to understand the reasoning behind this decision. They say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" but in the 1940s design I can only see an ugly set of dummy pipe-racks, reminding me of some of the monstrosities which defile otherwise beautiful buildings in England. Maybe I need glasses...
What strikes me as even more serious is that there could be tonal repercussions for what is by all accounts an excellent new instrument.
Oh well, I suppose 1940s nostalgia had to come back some time. Why not go the whole hog and find some vintage Hammond speakers and put these behind the facade together with a suitable early electrone?

Jane Parker-Smith

International Concert Organist

London, W2 2PL, United Kingdom

Reply #725 on : Fri August 01, 2008, 14:38:30

FINN SVIT

Musiker - kulturskoleleder

Enggården 37

Reply #726 on : Sat August 02, 2008, 13:19:31

Det vil være en stor skab at ændre på udsende og klang af et så smukt og bevaringsværdigt orgel.

mvh

FINN SVIT

Marie-Louise Reitberger

organist

Sjællandsgade 25, DK-8000 Århus C

Reply #727 on : Sun August 03, 2008, 19:02:05

Anne Buch Sørensen

organist

Gudrunvænget 18, 5270 Odense N, Danmark

Reply #728 on : Tue August 05, 2008, 09:45:42

John Overton

Organist, kyrkomusiker, dirigent, tonsattare, mm

Mahone Bay, Canada

Reply #729 on : Mon August 25, 2008, 05:14:45

I Rimlighetens, Musikens och den djupa Intuitetens namn, ska denna sansloshet (och alla likartade fall) stoppas.

Lycka till med "expertens" tillnyktring!

JO

Gitte Hjorth

sanger

Bredegade 46

Reply #730 on : Wed September 03, 2008, 17:01:20

Olivier Salandini

Organiste de la Basilque Notre Dame de Nice, Professeur CRR Limoges

bierkade 1B 2512 AA Den Haag Nederland

Reply #731 on : Wed September 03, 2008, 19:59:04

Malheureusement tout les goûts sont dans la nature même les plus débiles!!!

Austin Gunn

Director of Outreach and the youth choir

St Nicholas Cathedral, Newcastle

Reply #732 on : Sat October 25, 2008, 12:54:15

Paquet David

Organiste & dirigeant

6 rue de Wissembourg - 57150 Creutzwald - France

Reply #733 on : Mon November 03, 2008, 11:41:22

Je vous soutiens à 100%!! Quelle honte de vouloir remettre cette ancienne "façade" horriblissime et anarchique!!! Votre instrument est très beau et mérite le détour!! Dommage que j'habite si loin...
Si certaines personnes ont trop d'argent (l'état aussi?), je veux bien de cet argent pour pouvoir restaurer l'orgue de ma paroisse!!
Cette transformation serait un massacre, une honte et un pur gâchis!!
Je vous soutiens à 100%!!!!!!!
Mes amitiés sincères!
David Paquet

Martin Malmberg

Organist, MD, PhD, överläkare

Helsingborg

Reply #734 on : Mon November 10, 2008, 10:59:17

Jan-Olof Kardell

mr

Halmstad

Reply #735 on : Fri December 12, 2008, 19:36:42

Hur kan man bara komma på tanken att dölja denna fantastiskt vackra nya orgel. Idioter.

Bodil Jakobsen

persioneret stiftskontorchef

Fårehave 105, Haderslev, Danmark

Reply #736 on : Thu March 05, 2009, 21:34:29

Gerd Bexell

Ekonom, korist, musikant

Altona By 12, 312 31 LAHOLM

Reply #737 on : Sun March 08, 2009, 23:12:23

Är döpt och konfirmerad i S:t Nikolai. Tycker att den nya fasaden är mycket finare och passar perfekt. Låt den få vara kvar!!!

Arne Wikestad Sørensen

Organist

knobelsveien 12

Reply #738 on : Fri March 20, 2009, 20:28:37

Så ille.

Flemming Møller

orgelenthusiast

Olufsvej 39, DK-2100 København Ø, Danmark

Reply #739 on : Mon April 13, 2009, 15:52:47

Den såkallade "ursprungliga" Tengbom-fassaden påminner om "der schwarze, deutsche Adler des dritten Reiches" och borde utan tvekan glömmas bort för all framtid - omedelbart!
Den nya fassaden stämmer unikt ihop med det aktuella instrumentets kvalité och får enligt min uppfattning stanna kvar!

Jan D'hulster

Organist

Belgium

Reply #740 on : Thu June 11, 2009, 18:19:33

The idea is simply inconceivable, though worse has been materialised in some places, nevertheless.
I hope the final decision will be based on wisdom and a lot of common sense, both qualities being abundantly absent so far.

Kenneth Steele

Organist, Choirmaster, Kemble UMC, Woodbury, NJ, USA

Marlton, NJ, USA

Reply #741 on : Tue October 13, 2009, 00:02:22

I am in agreement with the statement as written above. KRS

Stewart Taylor

Organist, Holy Trinity, Hereford

39, Breinton Road

Reply #742 on : Fri November 13, 2009, 06:43:38

What is being proposed is complete madness. Please reconsider this crazy idea and leave this beautiful instrument alone.

Dick Koomans

Organist, Organ voicer (Flentrop)

Doelstraat 21 rood 2011 XA Haarlem, Netherlands

Reply #743 on : Thu November 26, 2009, 19:08:42

After many years of struggle with the German 'Denkmalschutz' about the prospekt of the new Hamburg Katharinen reconstruction it was decided at last that is was best to maintain the original proportions of the organ-case of the Scherer-organ.(of course!)
I'm just stunned that this nonsense of designing (or rebuilding for that matter) a 'contemporary' facade isn't over yet.

Wout van Kuilenburg

organist

Dieric Boutsstraat 18, NL 5831 VN Boxmeer

Reply #744 on : Sat March 27, 2010, 16:04:40

Zo snel mogelijk het Pels-front herstellen! Schande

Rose-Marie Hansson

Tjej som älskar dagens utförande på orgeln

Vipemöllevägen 105, 224 66 LUND

Reply #745 on : Fri May 07, 2010, 13:59:42

Barry Jordan

Domorganist

Goethestr. 36, 39108 Magdeburg

Reply #746 on : Tue August 31, 2010, 16:20:54

It may be, that the the church council acted too soon, unwisely or even illegally when opting to remove the facade of the old organ - an instrument which, by all accounts, was not in any way a good instrument. Nevertheless, the Pels organ is very successful in every way. Attempts to remodel it can only mean its partial or complete destruction. What could possibly be the motivation for such a barbaric act? Revenge? Why destroy a second (good) instrument, because the parish was bold enough to dismantle another poor one? This seems totally senseless.

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