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An die Bezirksregierung Halland

Eine Petition aus Anlaß des Konfliktes wegen der Gestaltung der Emporenorgel in der St. Nikolai-Kirche in Halmstad

Die Unterzeichner - Kirchenmusiker, Konzertorganisten, Orgelprofessoren, Orgelbauer oder auf andere Weise mit der Orgelkunst professionell befaßte Personen - fordern hiermit die Bezirksregierung auf, den Beschluß des Landeskonservators bezüglich der Wiedererrichtung der Fassade der ehemaligen Orgel aufzuheben!

Der geforderte Umbau der Orgel ist vollkommen unrealistisch und kann nicht ohne einschneidende Eingriffe im Hinblick auf das neue Instrument, den Kirchenraum und das kirchliche Musikleben durchgeführt werden und würde überdies unverantwortlich hohe Kosten in einer Größenordnung von etwa 4 Millionen schwedischen Kronen (ca. 450 000 Euro) verursachen.

Der Tengbom-Prospekt

hat nichts mit der neuen Orgel gemeinsam, weder visuell, klanglich-akustisch noch stilistisch;
hat stumme Pfeifen mit völlig anderen Mensuren als die klingenden Prospekt-Pfeifen der neuen Orgel, die in den alten Prospekt eingefügt werden müßten;
ist ein Kind seiner Zeit und ein Beispiel für einen dekadenten Stil, der während der frühen Kriegsjahre möglich war, jedoch seitdem inakzeptabel ist; in diesem Sinne ist der Prospekt (hoffentlich) einzigartig, allerdings ausschließlich in negativer Bedeutung;
hat weder stilistische Gemeinsamkeiten mit dem Kirchenraum noch mit irgendeiner früheren oder späteren Orgelbautradition; die Behauptung, der Prospekt sei ein unentbehrlicher Teil einer architektonischen "Ganzheit", ist ein nachträgliches Argument, das sich selbst ad absurdum führt.

Den gamla orgeln / The previous organ / Die alte Orgel / L’orgue ancien

Eine Rekonstruktion des alten Prospektes bedeutet einen umfassenderen Eingriff in die neue Orgel als die Befürworter zu begreifen scheinen. Funktionell wichtige Teile müßten umgebaut werden, was sich auf das Instrument nachteilig auswirken würde. Der Schaden für die neue Orgel wäre irreversibel und inakzeptabel.

Der Prospekt der neuen Orgel ist ein integrierter Teil der Funktion des Instrumentes, er kann daher nicht einfach ersetzt werden. Der alte Prospekt ist dagegen eine "Fassade" im wörtlichen Sinne, die ohne eigentliche Funktion vor die ehemalige Orgel gestellt wurde.

Vor dem Hintergrund der obigen Ausführungen fordern wir die Bezirksregierung auf, den Antrag des Landeskonservators bezüglich der Wiedererrichtung des alten Prospektes zurückzuziehen und die neue Orgel unangetastet zu lassen.

Skriv under / Please sign / Bitte unterschreiben / Signez s.v.p.

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James David Christie

Professor of Organ

Oberlin Conservatory of Music

Reply #201 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 15:39:06

I really cannot believe this proposal - it is an absurdity and completely misguided. Is there really anyone on this earth who finds this proposal attractive! Please, do not waste your money; if this project were to go forth, Sweden would be the laughing stock of the organ world.

Murray Allan

Organ Builder

Sydney, Asutalia

Reply #202 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:03:21

Chris Bragg

organist

Koningin Sophialaan13, 3818 HR Amersfoort, The Netherlands

Reply #203 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:05:33

Martin Blomquist

Organist

Stjärnsundsgatan 25 124 72 Bandhagen

Reply #204 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:17:32

Jag kan bara helt instämma i ovantående punkter.

Peter Wright

Organist, Southwark Cathedral

Southwark Cathedral, London Bridge, LONDON, SE1 9JE, England

Reply #205 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:30:07

An organ case should to be an integral part of the whole instrument, not simply a meaningless adornment. I fail to perceive what possible merits the proposal to retain the old screen possesses; artistically, aesthetically or technically.

Jon Stefansson

Organist

Solheimum 13, IS 104 Reykjavik - ISLAND

Reply #206 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:30:22

LEE JONGSIL

ORGANIST

KOREA SEOULSI SEONGBUKKU JEONGNUNG1DONG WOOSUNGAPT 102-805

Reply #207 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:42:52

Douglas Brotchie

Organist of Háteigs Church

Mosfellsbaer, Iceland

Reply #208 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:45:09

Markus Nathal

Konzertorganist

Speyer-Deutschland

Reply #209 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 16:57:22

Unfassbar was da vom Konservator verlangt wird. Ich hätte solche Vorgänge nur in Deutschland für möglich gehalten aber anscheinend gibt es Schildbürger auch in Schweden!
Mit den besten Wünschen aus Speyer-Deutschland!
Markus Nathal

Dong-ill Shin

Organist/ Artist in Residence

P.O. Box 1461 Hurst, TX

Reply #210 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:14:58

Kristopher King

Organist South Shields Parish Church

58 Fellside, Birtley, County Durham, GB

Reply #211 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:16:09

Carolyn Shuster Fournier

Organist at La Trinité Church in Paris, France

6% bis, villa des Entrepreneurs, 75015 PARIS, FRANCE

Reply #212 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:28:53

Please maintain the actual case which enhances the organ and the Saint-Nicolas Church in Halstad, Sweden. You will thus be promoting artistic beauty and harmony in our world.

Carolyn Shuster Fournier

Ingrid Nilsson

Organist i Skallsjö pastorat

Barnabovägen 8, Alingsås

Reply #213 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:36:08

Keith S. TOTH

Titular organist of the Casavant organ, The Brick Presbyterian Church, New York City

62 East 92nd Street, New York, NY

Reply #214 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:37:57

Michaël Dahlin

organist

Pastorsexp. 296 31 Åhus

Reply #215 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:41:06

Elisabet Stoltz Niklasson

organist

Östregårdsgatan 17 352 40 Växjö

Reply #216 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:50:18

Häng det gamla monstret på museum. Helst bakom ett tjockt draperi så det inte skrämmer slag på besökarna!

Olle Cervin

Organist

Rängs prästgård

Reply #217 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:54:41

Sådant typiskt svenskt förmynderi!
Gamla fasaden till tippen!

Anne Susag

Assistant in Worship/Music

USA

Reply #218 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:59:35

Ulrika Ardin

Dirigent och kyrkomusiker

Svartbäcksgatan 123, Uppsala

Reply #219 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 17:59:55

Det är svårt att finna ord för detta vanvett.
Även om Kyrkl.samfälligheten i Halmstad skulle ha begått alla formella fel man kan göra så måste ju minsta barn se att den nya orgeln passar mycket bättre in i kyrkorummet än det gamla spöket. När man dessutom ser på orgelns disposition så inser väl alla att det vore en enorm kapitalförstöring att genomföra fasadbytet.

Till RAÄ vill jag säga: Släpp prestigen och låt för en gångs skull den levande kulturhistorien, som ju orgeln representerar, få blomma!

Ingrid Larsson Hultkvist

Organist

Åstorp

Reply #220 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 18:23:38

Jean-Baptiste Dupont

organist

9 allée de Corrèze 31770 Colomiers -France

Reply #221 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 18:27:57

Steingrímur Þórhallsson

Organist

Iceland

Reply #222 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 18:29:17

Absurd idea, would only be possible in the minds of non artistical people.

Anna-Lena Näsström

Kantor

Göteborg

Reply #223 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 18:33:34

RAÄ måste väl kunna lyssna på så många kunniga kommentarer från olika håll i världen.

Jane Parker-Smith

International Concert Organist

141 The Quadrangle Tower, Cambridge Square, London W2 2PL, United Kingdom

Reply #224 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 18:34:24

Jürgen Wolf

Amateurorganist

Köln / Tyskland

Reply #225 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:04:18

Klaus Meglitsch

Organist

A - 2485 Wimpassing

Reply #226 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:12:42

Mit den Denkmalschützern gibt es IMMER Probleme. In meiner Gemeinde wurde ebenfalls eine neue Orgel gebaut; die gesamte Pfarre stimmte über 3 vom Orgelbauer entworfene Prospekte ab und fand mehrheitlich zu einem Konsens. Das Denkmalamt zeigte sich davon unbeeindruckt und kippte die Entscheidung der Pfarre.
Link: http://pfarre.heim.at/wampersdorf/_sgg/m9_1.htm

Bruce Shultz

Professor & Organist

2101 S. College Ave Phila. Pa. 19121 USA

Reply #227 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:22:07

Eyþór Ingi Jónsson

organist i Akureyri kyrka, konsertorganist, orgellärare på kyrkomusiklinjen i Reykjavik

Munkaþverárstræti 1, 600 Akureyri ISLAND

Reply #228 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:32:59

jean jacques kasel

professeur d'orgue au Conservatoire, independant organ consultant,concert organist

L-1258 Luxembourg

Reply #229 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:33:23

Never anybody made more harm throughout the complete History of The Pipe Organ than people like those that actually seem to have the right to kill your instrument, those from those Senior County Antiquaries over the World.In Luxembourg, those people destroyed several projects with the result that one classified Church now owns an electronic organ, another concert hall got an organ that could have been planned in the early 40's. They have interests,their ego wants to rule, if not capable of anything else in a creative way, to decide like Nero over Life an Death, just to decide, whatever the consequences, like if Art was in need ofr decisons,"experts" and primus inter pares-syndroms.Money and egotrips as a destructive feature to compensate stupidity, absence of own creativity, success , and above all mostly totally unskilled to talk or decide on anything seriously.If Art really got in those people's hand, than we can close the folder to ever. I wished this Comitee that wants this terrible idea to come true could be put in a personnally similar situation:erase their personnality, change their face to a clownesque look and mute their voice to synthetic rhetorics. Hopefully, you win your case, good luck!
www.jeanjacqueskasel.lu

sigrid berggren

organist

åsen 435, 45196 uddevalla

Reply #230 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:41:47

Dr. Johannes Bremme

C-Musiker

Marl

Reply #231 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:57:05

Auch wenn mir der alte Prospekt ebenfalls gefällt, so ist doch der zusätzliche finanzielle Aufwand für eine nachträgliche Rückführung zum alten Aussehen keinesfalls zu rechtfertigen.

Reinhard Kluth

Pfarrverbandskantor

Gertrudisstraße 10, 40229 Düsseldorf

Reply #232 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:57:22

Katharina Hieke

organist, Ramundeboda församling

Tivedsvägen 16, 69550 Finnerödja

Reply #233 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 19:59:56

Vilken grotesk idé att förstöra den nya orgeln med Tengbom-fasaden. Undrar om det finns någon på raä som förstår vad det är frågan om. Jag hoppas verkligen att länsstyrelsen drar tillbaka raä:s beslut, alternativt att Halmstads församling har civilcourage nog att låta den nya orgeln vara orörd i alla fall.

Lukas Pollack

organ friend

Stettener Str. 169 73732 Esslingen

Reply #234 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 20:15:47

I strongly plead for letting commonsense have its way in this matter and hope that the justified objections of those who are immediately concerned in it will be eventually respected.

Simon Williams

Organist and Director of Music, St George's Church, Hanover Square, London W1

44 Dickinson Square, Croxley Green, Rickmansworth, WD3 3EY, UK

Reply #235 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 20:43:27

I cannot understand why anybody would wish to re-instate the former pipe-screen. Doig so woudl ruin the new organ.

Christiane Rödder

Organist

94322 Hortlax

Reply #236 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 20:47:43

Peter Van de Velde

Titular-Organist Antwerp Cathedral, International concert organist

Groenplaats 21, 2000 Antwerp

Reply #237 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 20:53:26

Absurd idea!

Olaf Dausch

Organist

Laurentiusring 75, Herxheim

Reply #238 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 20:53:29

aase ericsson

Organist

oderljunga åkerv 7

Reply #239 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:01:57

Joop van der Hoek

great fan of organmusic

7524 AJ ENSCHEDE (NL), Oldenzaalsestraat 886

Reply #240 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:02:32

For me it's incredible to change a good organs facade because someone don't like the present one.
It will give a great influence on the sound of the instrument, the inside view of the building and quite important it will be a great waste of (tax-)money, payed by the citizens of the area.
Now it is the moment to prevent a big mistake, so be clever and withdraw the whole idea.

Stefan Helgi Kristinsson

Organist

stekkjargata 79 260 Iceland

Reply #241 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:17:56

Don't change!

Dag Videke

Organist

Nybrovägen 32 394 70 Kalmar

Reply #242 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:21:42

Thomas Niklasson

domkyrkoorganist, Växjö

Östregårdsgatan 17, Växjö

Reply #243 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:24:54

Det är helt absurt; Pga att ärendet från församlingens sida inte sköttes helt enligt regelboken vill nu RA med maktspråk föra ärendet till vägs ände. Förslag; Överlämna den fina "Tengbomfasaden" till RA, den kan väl pryda någon lämplig vägg i Visby.

Gustav Auzinger

Organist

A-4120 Neufelden, Pürnstein 37

Reply #244 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:28:18

Bo Hammarström

Organist

Sörbäcksgatan 15, 216 25 Malmö

Reply #245 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:30:19

Antje Bernhardt

Organist

71130 Lindesberg Sverige

Reply #246 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:45:02

Alexander Vaulin

Konsertpianist

Høje Gladsaxe 49, 1mf; DK-2860 Søborg, Danmark

Reply #247 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:46:59

Anders Dillmar

Organist, Fil dr, Teol kand.

Uppsala

Reply #248 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:55:05

Det är befängt!

otto roelofsen

President "Organum Frisicum

Harlingerweg 27 Kimswerd NL

Reply #249 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 21:56:08

"Stop destroying this important organ!

Stina Persson

Organist

Härkeshultsvägen 26, 438 35 Landvetter

Reply #250 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:00:08

Norbert PETRY

Organiste Cathédrale

29, rue Pasteur F57000 Metz

Reply #251 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:05:56

Elizabeth Hung Wong

Organist and Choirmaster

Church of the Epiphany, 1393 York Avenue, New York, NY 10021

Reply #252 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:09:13

Patrick Seber

Organist, hobbyorgelbyggare, kantoren

Herdstraße 38, D-67346 Speyer

Reply #253 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:09:39

Latour Patrice

carillonneur

Rouen, France

Reply #254 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:10:02

stop!
La tyrannnie ideologique de capricieux "architectes" et de leur cour de conseillers fait des ravages, finances par la collectivite.
Absurde.
Creez ailleurs, ne detruisez pas l'existant.
Si l'ancien "buffet" existait, la question restait posee. Il n'en est rien.

Jukka Heroja

organist, sångpedagog

Lasarettsgatan 10 98231 Gällivare

Reply #255 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:13:20

ingeborg johannesson

kantor

ostv.8a 232 52 åkarp

Reply #256 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:17:22

Torvald Petersson

Organist Ytterby

Månsav. 11, 511 31 Örby

Reply #257 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:23:03

Ingrid Larne

Organist

Särdal, Vårhögen 148, 310 42 Haverdal

Reply #258 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:25:09

Jean Pierre Steijvers

Organiste Titulaire Cathedral St.Christoffel Roermond

Aldenhoven 28 NL6093 HB HEYTHUYSEN

Reply #259 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 22:58:15

Birgitta Roslund

Organist

Frejgatan 6 Hässleholm

Reply #260 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:02:45

Ian Wakeley

Organbuilder

17 Hayride Lane Chirnside Park Victoria 3116 Australia

Reply #261 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:04:38

Peter Krenske

Concert pianist/organist

112 Yallambee Rd Jindalee Qld AUSTRALIA

Reply #262 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:31:29

To the Committee of the County Administration Board for Halland:

Big thankyou to you enlightened people. You are helping organists everywhere to understand that it is indeed Committees that should make artistic decisions, not artists. What better way to teach them humility than to put their fine organ behind a pile of crap? Having said that, and should your plan fall through, might I request the opportunity to tender in the sale of the previous case? It's not much, but some of it would look very interesting on the outside of my house, to channel the rain from my roof to the ground.

Jennifer Pascual, D.M.A.

Cathedral Director of Music/ Seminary Professor of Music

St. Patrick's Cathedral 460 Madison Ave. New York, NY 10022 USA

Reply #263 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:35:19

David Macfarlane

Director of Music and Organist All Saint's Anglican Church, East St Kilda

Melbourne, Australia

Reply #264 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:52:29

The previous organ case is a child of its time, ugly and out of keeping with good organ building practice. It should never have been allowed to have been built. No wonder why it was replaced.

Gerard Brooks

Associate Director of Music

All Souls Langham Place, London, England

Reply #265 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:52:43

Bernhard Müller

Organist

Bedrettostrasse 2, CH 4059 Basel

Reply #266 on : Tue October 02, 2007, 23:59:58

François Espinasse

Organiste de St Séverin à Paris, Professeur au Conservatoire National Supérieur de Musique de Lyon

16 rue Camille Hébert F-91220 Brétigny sur Orge France

Reply #267 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 00:29:41

Revenir au buffet "Tengbom" serait une erreur, pire, une terrible faute de goût. Revenir à un buffet aussi laid, aussi peu favorable sur le plan acoustique ne serait tout simplement pas acceptable pour la communauté internationale des organistes.J'en appelle aux membres du Conseil Régional de la Région de Halland: renoncez à ce projet et votre décision sera un honneur pour votre assemblée.

Per-Ove Larsson

Organist i Adolf Fredriks kyrka, Stockholm

Kammakargatan 30, 111 60 Stockholm

Reply #268 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 00:33:25

Den nya fasaden är fantastisk! Mycket vackrare än "Tengboms".

Harold Fabrikant

Organist

37 Maxwell Grove, Caulfield. Vic. 3162, Australia

Reply #269 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 00:34:41

Graham Devenish

Organ Builder

3/19 John St, Bayswater

Reply #270 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 00:57:02

Unbelievable. What possible value can come of this demand?

Smari Olason

Organist, former teacher of the theory of building organs

Asbudartrod 1 220 HAFNARFJORDUR ICELAND

Reply #271 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 03:23:37

To value historic remains is a very improtant thing. But historicism can really go to far. Making suggestions about putting "the old bat" on it place is compleatly absurd. People who even think such thoughts should adopt the monster themself. This beautiful new organ should really be left in peace. You can not put a new "frame" onto an organ just like putting plastic sunglasses on your glasses.

Judith Houston

organist - St patrick's cathedral, Ballarat

3 Ripon St North, Ballarat Vic Australia

Reply #272 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 04:36:53

I write to ask that the integrity of the new organ be protected and that it not be forced into an earlier facade

Stephen Tharp

Artist in Residence

Grace Church, 802 Broadway, New York, NY 10003

Reply #273 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 04:43:23

To make such horrific alterations would be artistic rape. What a waste of thought, not to mention your time and money. I would emplore you to abandon such a pointless idea.

Renee Anne Louprette

Associate Director of Music

Church of St. Ignatius Loyola, 980 Park Avenue, New York, NY U.S.A.

Reply #274 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 05:37:34

Mario Van Assche

Organist

Peerstraat 123, BE-9000 Gent (BELGIUM)

Reply #275 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 07:26:21

Br. Andreas Warler

Basilika-Organist

Hermann-Josef-Str. 4, D-53925 Kall-Steinfeld

Reply #276 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 07:41:42

peter alrikson

Organist

Skärvavägen 11 352 36 Växjö

Reply #277 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 08:37:45

Det är beklagligt att nära nog all anpassning till nutid inom kyrkan motarbetas av RA. Även om inte allt har gått enligt regelboken i detta fall är agerandet patetiskt./Peter

Justin Sillman

Organ builder (retired)

6 Tomlins Grove, London E3 4NX UK

Reply #278 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 08:38:36

Incredible: striving to force a Holbein painting into a Woolworth's frame...

Thomas Bernhardt

organist

S-71178 Guldsmedshyttan / Sverige

Reply #279 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 08:48:46

hans blomberg

kantor Myckleby kyrkliga samfällighet

Häröd 305, 473 96 Henån

Reply #280 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 08:57:53

Cecilia Dreisig

organist

Stensåkerv 136, 238 33 Oxie

Reply #281 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:01:05

Anna Martinson

Organist

Wallenstråles väg 39 692 36 KUMLA

Reply #282 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:17:42

David G Hepplewhite

Pianst / Organist

Whitley Bay. U K

Reply #283 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:36:01

Johan-Magnus Sjöberg

Organist i Lunds Allhelgonaförsamling/Tonsättare

ODarslövsvägen 98, 225 98 Lund

Reply #284 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:45:30

Helena Ambertson

Organist

Prästgårdsflygen Husaby 533 95 Götene

Reply #285 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:45:32

Mattias Eklund

Organist

Staveredsgatan 13, 461 31 Trollhättan

Reply #286 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:49:33

Sven Ivarson

Musikdir. Organist

Enebrovägen 21, 633 47 Eakilstuna

Reply #287 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:55:03

Jag understöder kravet på att behålla den
Nybyggda orgelfasaden.

Ulf Lindström

Organist

Bergsgatan 32 542 31 MARIESTAD

Reply #288 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:55:04

Karl Magnus Jansson

organist Örebro, S:t Nicolai församling

vårhemsg 24 702 17 Örebro

Reply #289 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:56:46

Maria Granlund

organist

V. Fors 153 A 782 75 Malungsfors

Reply #290 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 09:57:34

Jørgen Haldor Hansen

Organist v. Jesuskirken. København

Røjlevangen 124, 2630 Taastrup, Danmark

Reply #291 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 10:30:14

Forslaget med at sætte den gamle facade foran det nye orgel er ud fra et kunstnerisk,orgelmæssigt,lydmæssigt og æstetisk synspunkt helt uacceptabelt.

Olov Risberg

organist

Akvarievägen 22 135 42 Tyresö

Reply #292 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 10:35:02

Från klåfingriga antikvariemänniskor bevare oss milde Herre Gud!

Bernhard Gies, Dr.med.

läkare, orgelinteresserad

D-54296 Trier

Reply #293 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 10:42:01

wenn Denkmalschutz zum Selbstzweck wird, steht er ausserhalb der Gesellschaft

Ann-Margreth Nyberg

organist

Repslagareg.4 Eslöv

Reply #294 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 10:55:00

Peter Eilander

Organist

Omloop 80, Twello, NL

Reply #295 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 10:59:58

KEIN UMBAU, BITTE!!

Klas Hedberg

Organist

Cypressgatan 6, 230 40 Bara

Reply #296 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:01:08

Lars Fredén

Organist

Karlavägen 73 114 49 Stockholm

Reply #297 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:06:44

Catharina Ekeberg

kantor

Österhaninge församling, box 113, 136 22 Haninge

Reply #298 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:07:02

Skrämmande fasad! (den gamla, alltså) Den nya klär läktaren som ett smycke.

CAUCHEFER-CHOPLIN

titulaire-adjointe Saint Sulpice PARIS

12 bis rue Jean Mascré 92330 SCEAUX France

Reply #299 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:14:38

Laisser l'orgue actuel dans son état est la SAGESSE même...! Penser au coût inimaginable : cet argent pourrait servir à construire ou restaurer d'autres orgues et faire vivre nos facteurs !!!!!!!!!

Graeme Kay

Organist, wriiter and broadcaster

Orford, Suffolk, UK

Reply #300 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:15:04

I never thought I'd think of the one of the world's most civilised countries dealing with a cultural artefact in the same way as the Taleban dealt with the Bamiyan Buddhas ...

Birger Marmvik

Organist

Ekebovägen 1, 57240 Oskarshamn

Reply #301 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:23:52

Olivier Eisenmann

Dr. phil. I, Konzertorganist

Chalet Brisenblick, CH-6353 Weggis

Reply #302 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:52:31

Nicht jedes Instrument, das aus früherer Zeit stammt, verdient es,
erhalten zu bleiben! Es kommt auf die Qualität an. Dies sage ich als Historier und vor allem als Konzertorganist, der sowohl auf der alten Orgel als auch auf dem wundervollen neuen Instrument mehrere Rezitals spielen durfte. Mit dem unprofessionellen Bestreben, den alten Prospekt wieder zu errichten, würde sich der Landeskonservator weltweit blamieren! Man könnte allenfalls die
ehemalige Orgel in ein Orgelmuseum unterbringen

Inger Högberg

Organist Västerås Lundby

Lupinvägen 5 Västerås

Reply #303 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 11:53:54

Inga Lindmark

Organist

Nørresøevej 12, DK-6051 Almind

Reply #304 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:03:07

Bengt Revin

herr

Slettvägen 10 260 41 Nyhamnsläge

Reply #305 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:03:33

Lotta Revin

Körsångare

Slettvägen 10 260 41 Nyhamnsläge

Reply #306 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:04:37

John Wilund

Organist

Wittstocksgatan 3, 5tr

Reply #307 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:09:42

Florence Ek Rooth

organist

Klockargården 741 90 Knivsta

Reply #308 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:10:03

Lothar D. Zickermann

organ architect

Hannover

Reply #309 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:31:53

May all the responsible persons open their eyes and hearts and realize the fatal character of their alteration plans.

Elisabeth Edström

organist

Starrv.18 147 32 Tumba

Reply #310 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 12:32:01

André Kruijf, MEd

Musikkritiker

Die Niederlande

Reply #311 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:00:04

Massimo NOSETTI

titular organist at Turin Cathedral and professor of Organ at the University Conservatory of Cuneo (Italy)

Via Costa 23 - 10040 Rivalta di Torino (Italy)

Reply #312 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:02:52

This is the very first time that I ear about the will of a State Office to destroy a beautiful organ case in order to re-install an odd and unpleasant free-standing pipe display which doesn’t blend at all with the original church architecture and, moreover, will affect in a very bad way the acoustical properties of that instrument.

Stefan Fred

Organist

Essinge kyrkväg 15 Stockholm

Reply #313 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:08:42

Ann-Charlott Olsson Wounsch

musikdirektör, organist

Möllebacken 12 263 71 Jonstorp

Reply #314 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:10:18

David Rumsey

Organist, organ consultant

Bruderholzrain 28 Basel CH-4059

Reply #315 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:12:46

This is truly in astonishingly bad visual-aesthetic taste, but it would additionally destroy essential and critical acoustic and musical functions of the new organ. Please keep me informed.

Per Fridtjov Bonsaksen

Domkantor/Domorganist i Nidaros domkirke, Trondheim. Orgelkonsulent

Skogvokterveien 2, N-7020 Trondheim

Reply #316 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:18:41

Johan Denke

Organist

Kyrkvägen 8, 175 79 Järfälla

Reply #317 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:24:04

Hans Nordenborg

Domkyrkoorganist

Malmtorgsgatan 20 A, 653 40 KARLSTAD

Reply #318 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:26:40

Ingemar Juhlin

Församlingsmusiker orgelintresserad

Lundavägen 10 Latorp 719 92 Vintrosa

Reply #319 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 13:50:17

Jag har varit i Halmstad och både sett och hört den nya orgeln att förstöra orgeln med den gamla fasaden och därtill med ett högt pris betecknar jag som ett kvalificerat vansinne.

Fredrik Alf

organist

Garvaregatan 20, 582 53 Linköping

Reply #320 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 14:01:40

Valborg Mangs Märak

Organist

Solgatan 8 96231 Jokkmokk

Reply #321 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 14:22:58

Rolf och Märtha Larsson

oratoriesåmgare

Kvarnbäcksvägen 14, 30240 Halmstad

Reply #322 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 14:49:04

Må förnuftet segra över prestigen !

Stefan Voges

Organ friend

Münster, Germany

Reply #323 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 14:51:12

Ágúst Ingi Ágústsson

Organist, Medical Doctor

Sjafnargata 7, 101 Reykjavík, Iceland

Reply #324 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 14:58:37

Carsten Lund

orgelbygger

Hammerbakken 22. 3460 Birkerød. DK

Reply #325 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 15:09:34

Tengbom-facaden tilhører en dekadent periode uden klanglig, teknisk eller arkitektonisk for-bindelse til orgelbygningskunst i almindelighed
og det nye Pels & van Leeuwen-orgel i særdeleshed.
Lad arkitekt Tengboms kulisse-facade dokumentere
og derefter destruere!

Rune Karlsson

organist

M'larh;jdsv. 61, 129 40 H'gersten

Reply #326 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 15:09:37

Bo Armand Olsson

Organist

V:a Gårda, 370 43 Sturkö

Reply #327 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 15:37:21

Hansjoerg keller

Organologe

Bremgarterstrasse 2 CH/8967 Widen

Reply #328 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 15:54:52

Der Beschluss Ihres Landeskonservators stellt einen zuhoechst unprofessionellen, brutalen Eingriff in ein auditiv/visuelles Gesamtkunstwerk dar / mit irreversiblen dramatischen Folgen!

Elisabeth Haag

Organist

Pingstvägen 12, Hägersten

Reply #329 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 16:28:28

Paul Pöllath

Orgelfreund

Volksstrasse 6 84028 Landshut/Bavarian

Reply #330 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 16:37:00

Ich schließe mich den Ausführungen des Herrn Hansjoerg Keller an.

Christoph Andreas Schäfer

Kantor und Organist der Heiliggeistkirche Heidelberg

Steingasse 11, D 69117 Heidelberg

Reply #331 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 16:40:53

Pia Wikström

Eventarrangör

Linnégatan 83 11460 Stockholm

Reply #332 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 16:45:32

Michael F. Runowski

konsertorganist, musikforskare och sakkunnig för orglar och kyrkoklockor

Körnerstr. 43, 12157 Berlin, Tyskland

Reply #333 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 16:47:48

Florian Löffler

Student für Kirchenmusik

Michael Burgau Str. 13, 93049 Regensburg, Deutschland

Reply #334 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 17:07:36

Kuppler, Christoph

Churchmusician and concert organist

Schumannstr. 7, 32756 Detmold, Germany

Reply #335 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 17:13:11

Kevin Clarke

Director of Music

3966 McKinney Ave DAllas, Tx 75088 USA

Reply #336 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 17:19:01

Anders Wilhelmsson

Organist Klippans församling

Ängelholm

Reply #337 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 17:24:42

Per-Lennart Isaksson

Organist

Lötgatan 3A 632 23 Eskilstuna

Reply #338 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 17:43:59

Hoppas verkligen att vett och sans får råda i denna fråga och att den nya orgeln ska få stå kvar. Något annat vore helt otänkbart enligt min mening. Att se bakåt är ju i detta fall rena vansinnet.

Matthew Power

Editor, Choir & Organ magazine

Newsquest, 30 cannon Street, London EC4M 6YJ, UK

Reply #339 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 17:55:53

Ulla Wester

Organist

Tuna Smedhagen Stallarholmen

Reply #340 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 18:16:15

Hans Wester

F.d. orgelbyggare

Stallarholmen

Reply #341 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 18:22:13

Hoppas att ingen orgelbyggare åtar sig att utföra ett dylikt uppdrag, om det Gud förbjude skulle bli aktuellt.

David Knight

General Secretary, Incorporated Association of Organists

The Cottage, Highercombe, Dulverton, Somerset, TA22 9PT, UK

Reply #342 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 18:30:53

Surely this must be a spoof. No person with understanding would want this alteration to go ahead.

Reuschenbach, Martin

Organist

Rengsdorfer Str. 35, Neustadt

Reply #343 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 18:38:53

Margareta Larsson

organist

Ribegatan 108 164 45 Kista

Reply #344 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 19:27:02

Wim Molenaar.

Organ builder

De Spits 16 Hoogeveen The Netherlands

Reply #345 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 19:30:37

Unbelievable.

els steketee-van der hoek

Listener

simon vestdijklaan 8

Reply #346 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 19:43:41

Christopher Bender

Kirchenmusiker und Konzertorganist

gresserstr.26 79102 Freiburg

Reply #347 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 19:54:39

Martin Pape

Organist und Chorleiter

Koveler Straße 13

Reply #348 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 20:06:28

Seems to be a really bad joke!

Christian Præstholm

Organist

Bjarkesvej 11, Randers, Danmark

Reply #349 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 20:14:14

Florian Pollack

Just music lover!

Brockhausstr. 84, 04229 Leipzig, Tyskland

Reply #350 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 20:37:23

Hubert Boom

organ builder

Zijlstralaan 31 5251SE

Reply #351 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 20:38:18

schandalig

Johannes Grüne

trumpetare & musiklärare

Wacholderweg 4, 30938 Burgwedel Tyskland

Reply #352 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 21:03:01

Edith Ho

church musician

1042 Beacon St. Newton, MA

Reply #353 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 21:12:41

Marcus Marquardt

Organist, Chorleiter

Igelbachstr. 17, 76593 Gernsbach

Reply #354 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 21:25:13

Unglaublich!

Kurt-Ludwig Forg

Director - Borken School of Music/Concert Organist/Organ Consultant

Rekener Str. 13, 46359 Heiden/Germany

Reply #355 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 21:55:31

In daily life we would just comment that such a decision is a proof of bad taste. In professional life it is not just a proof of bad taste, it is also a proof unprofessionality!

peter kranefoed

organist, organ builder

sperberweg 4 winnenden D-71364 Germany

Reply #356 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 21:58:06

DON'T!!! NEVER EVER DO THIS!!!

Joop Van Vugt

Organ builder

polakhof 20 holland

Reply #357 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 22:06:38

unbelievable idea

Andrew Sampson

organist

St Matthew's Church, Westminster, GB

Reply #358 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 22:45:24

This must be political correctness gone mad! I thought such madness was a uniquely British disease. Clearly not.

Ulf Samuelsson

Organist i Örebro Olaus Petri församling

Längbrogatan 17, 703 67 Örebro

Reply #359 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 22:51:27

Engels, Stefan

Professor of Organ, University of Music and Theatre Leipzig

Leipzig, Germany

Reply #360 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 23:12:17

Leo van Doeselaar

Professor of Organ University of Arts Berlin

Burg.Lambooylaan 17 1217 LB Hilversum

Reply #361 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 23:20:51

Enjott Schneider

Prof.Dr. University of Music Munich

Am wageck 4 D-81669 MUENCHEN

Reply #362 on : Wed October 03, 2007, 23:55:45

I prefere absolutely to keep the organ in the actual state... all kind of modification seems me to be a mad operation!!!!

Christa Rumsey

Organ teacher

Adelaide, Australia

Reply #363 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 00:43:06

An organ facade is a living, integral part of an instrument. To superimpose a facade from one of the least enlightened periods in organ building on an instrument of integrity and beauty is destructive and absurd. To spend vast sums of money on such a project borders on the obscene.

Giovanni Clavorà Braulin

Professor of Organ and organ Composition - Conservatorium "L. Cheribini" - Florence

via Libero Leonardi 120 Roma (Italy)

Reply #364 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 07:46:19

Nicklas Strandberg

Kyrkomusiker

alphyddav. 2

Reply #365 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 08:00:01

Peter Wågsjö

Mus. dir., organist

Box 178, 435 24 Mölnlycke

Reply #366 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 08:06:29

Tore Almgren

Musikpedagog/Dir.

Lidingö

Reply #367 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 08:37:22

Totalt vansinne

Jan Börjeson

Orgelbyggare

Hökarvägen 18, 129 41 HÄGERSTEN

Reply #368 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 09:44:11

Ett huvudproblem kan kommenteras (fler finns):

1. Kompetensproblemen hos RAÄ beror till stor del på oacceptabel underbemanning för orgelfrågorna. En person (som ej arbetar heltid) ska avgöra allt från enkla, till omfattande och svåra frågor. RAÄ uppmanas omgående att bredda kompetensen på orgelområdet. Om RAÄ breddade kompetensen genom att skapa ett öppet team (inte en dold referesgrupp), skulle förutsättningen att fatta kloka beslut finnas där. Halmstadsprojektet bär säkert på många okända turer, men att upplösningen av detta ärende blir att gamla misstag upprepas, är djupt beklagligt. Man frågar sig vilken nytta Tengbom-kopian är tänkt att få i S:t Nicolai kyrka?

Läs gärna Martin Haussners inlägg, som belyser RAÄs speciella syn på helhet i orgelfrågor.

Helen Oscarsson

Kyrkomusiker

Sixbacken 1, 65344 Karlstad

Reply #369 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 09:50:52

LECAUDEY

Titulaire de Saint-Rémy-de-Provence

F-30300 BEAUCAIRE

Reply #370 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 09:59:27

Le Buffet d'un orgue est une pièce constitutive du résultat sonore, donc indispensable à l'harmonie des tuyaux. Il serait abérant de le supprimer sans réfléchir à la suite à donner en terme d'harmonie.

Jeroen de Haan

Organist

Den Haag, Nederland

Reply #371 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 10:06:33

I hope there is a possibility to retrieve the decision about the beautiful and majestic organfacade in this church. This current facade is in shape with the architecture of the church. The old Tengbom-facade is not representing the sound of this organ. I wish you all the wisdom to make a good decision, and I hope it will be in a positive way.

This organ in Halmstad is a unique instrument, save it!

Karin Marcusson

organist

Kristinehamns församling, Box 106, 681 23 Kristinehamn

Reply #372 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 11:00:48

Jochen Bösch

Kirchenmusiker und Orgellehrer

St. Ulrich 10, D-79283 Bollschweil

Reply #373 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 11:11:04

Hans Lassbo

Kantor

Örtugsvägen 3 653 46 Karlstad

Reply #374 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 11:25:52

david bergius

organist

Vindelns församling, Vindeln

Reply #375 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 11:31:45

H-B Lindström

Organist

Renlavsgången 258, 135 35 Tyresö

Reply #376 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 13:14:16

Joakim Olsson Kruse

organist, ordförande Föreningen för Tidig Musik

Kristianstad

Reply #377 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 13:58:40

Gunnar Lindgren

Organist Bjärreds församling

Sunnanväg 18 L 222 26 Lund

Reply #378 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 14:13:54

bine katrine bryndorf

professor i orgel, københavn

aabrinken 123, 2830 virum, danmark

Reply #379 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 15:01:24

Lajla Vennevold Almgren

Orgelälskare

Lidingö

Reply #380 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 15:52:06

Vilken absurd idé.

Benneth Wållberg

Musikdirektör, Organist i Umeå Stadsförsamling

Vännfors 83 911 92 Vännäs

Reply #381 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 15:53:42

Christina Wide

Organist

Prästgårdsvägen 16, 43931 ONSALA

Reply #382 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 16:20:28

Bengt Sydmark

Organist i Landskrona församling

Grindögatan 35, 25732 Rydebäck

Reply #383 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 16:21:57

Gunnar Borén

Organist i Mörrum-Elleholms församling

Karlshamnsvägen 6 37533Mörrum

Reply #384 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 16:51:46

Juan Maria Pedrero

Organist, Teacher at Granada Conservatory (Spain).

Paseo de las Palmas 25. 18008 Granada - SPAIN

Reply #385 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 18:43:41

Incroyable!!!!

Simon Eadon

organist and recording engineer

Rock House, Queen Street, Yetminster, Dorset DT9 6LL UK Queen Street

Reply #386 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 19:05:49

Please stop this ridiculous waste of money. You are making yourself into a laughing stock.

Gregory D'Agostino

Concert Organist, Organist & Director of Music, Church of the Blessed Sacrament, NYC

New York City

Reply #387 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 20:27:26

Don't undo a good thing in favor of the ungood ... and at great expense!

Petr Korger

Dipl. Ing. Designer of the organs

Na nivě 4, 794 01 Krnov, Czech Rep.

Reply #388 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 21:22:11

Do not decrease the quality of the instrument which reaches the highest levels of combination in sound, organbuilding and architecture.

Meyer Rudolf

Organist Prof. Orgelbauexperte

Mockentobel 14 CH 8400 Winterthur

Reply #389 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 21:35:15

Do not mix different esthetics together. Look for an other church to reconstruct the old organ case!

Simon Törnqvist

organiststuderande

Sven Palmes väg 3C TUMBA

Reply #390 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 21:39:10

Orgeln är ett instrument med avsikt att stödja församlingens sång, inte Riksantikvarieämbetet.

Anneli Törnqvist

Körsångare

Sven Palmes väg 3 C, Tumba

Reply #391 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 21:44:09

Elisabet Stenson

Kyrkomusikerstuderande

Kungshamra 32 B, 170 70 Solna

Reply #392 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 21:57:34

lars roos

Konsertpianist

tomtebogatan 16 113 39 Stockholm

Reply #393 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 22:59:49

Bara låt orgelverket vara kvar

Per Jansson

Organist

Vantörs församling

Reply #394 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 23:36:00

Instämmer i ovantående!!

Florian P. Steiner

Architekt, M.A. (Heritage Conservation)

Erlangen, Germany

Reply #395 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 23:40:38

Ob der Tengbom-Prospekt schön ist oder nicht, ist aus der Sicht der Denkmalpflege nicht von Bedeutung. Vielmehr stellt sich doch die Frage, wie die Wiederherstellung eines gewesenen Zustands auf Kosten eines existierenden Zustands zu rechtfertigen sei.
Argumente wie das der "architektonischen Ganzheit" entsprechen jedenfalls eher einer denkmalpflegerischen Auffassung des 19. Jahrhunderts.
Zudem errinert das Errichten eines funktionslosen Prospekts an den "façadisme" im Städtebau, und ist als solches auch kritisch zu hinterfragen.
Es erscheint mir angebracht, die jüngere Ausstattungsgeschichte der Kirche zu respektieren, zumal ich denke, dass auch in Schweden Gelder für die Denkmalpflege sinnvoller eingesetzt werden könnten.

Christiane Rödder

Organist

94135 Piteå

Reply #396 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 23:40:47

Mark Andrew Quarmby

Organist, St Andrew's Cathedral Sydney, Australia

1006/5 Albert Road

Reply #397 on : Thu October 04, 2007, 23:51:21

Erik Berglund

Organiststuderande

Lokstallsgatan 6, 113 21 Stockholm

Reply #398 on : Fri October 05, 2007, 00:09:34

Alan Winn

Organist, St. Michael & All Angels Church, Pirbright

136 Connaught Road, Brookwood, Woking, UK

Reply #399 on : Fri October 05, 2007, 00:15:43

Florian Benfer

kyrkomusiker och student (KMH Stockholm)

Kungshamra 21/301, 17070 Solna, Sweden

Reply #400 on : Fri October 05, 2007, 00:28:34

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